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	<title>Comments on: Online story presentation: Give me a break</title>
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	<description>Online musings from the newsroom and beyond . . . by Yoni Greenbaum</description>
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		<title>By: J.C. Hutchins</title>
		<link>http://www.yonigreenbaum.com/index.php/20080212/online-story-presentation-give-me-a-break/comment-page-1/#comment-280</link>
		<dc:creator>J.C. Hutchins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 19:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a reporter-turned-podcaster-and-blogger, I see both sides of this conundrum. A newspaper&#039;s online presence *should* provide most -- if not all -- of an edition&#039;s  content (especially those &quot;crown jewel&quot; longer pieces),  but what&#039;s the point if they&#039;re presented in a way no one will read them?

As you mention in your post, deft webpage design or breaking the content into separate pages may be the answer. I&#039;m a fan of the former, and hate the latter. (Clicking is more inconvenient than scrolling.) The former also requires more front-end consideration for design, which requires time -- an scarce asset in the newsroom.

Perhaps leveraging best practices seen in other sites / distribution methods is the answer. A longer piece can have a 300-word &quot;abstract&quot; overview that hits the high points, complete with a source quote, bullet points and a photo. Users can be encouraged to &quot;click in&quot; to the full story, which they intellectually understand will be longer. This provides options for the more interested user, and less time investment for casual readers.

Another option could be to roll out longer pieces as RSS/blog exclusives; the only way to enjoy these &quot;crown jewels&quot; is to subscribe to the paper&#039;s free RSS feed, which could be promoted alongside the abstract summary described above.

Thanks for writing such a provocative post, and please keep up the excellent work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a reporter-turned-podcaster-and-blogger, I see both sides of this conundrum. A newspaper&#8217;s online presence *should* provide most &#8212; if not all &#8212; of an edition&#8217;s  content (especially those &#8220;crown jewel&#8221; longer pieces),  but what&#8217;s the point if they&#8217;re presented in a way no one will read them?</p>
<p>As you mention in your post, deft webpage design or breaking the content into separate pages may be the answer. I&#8217;m a fan of the former, and hate the latter. (Clicking is more inconvenient than scrolling.) The former also requires more front-end consideration for design, which requires time &#8212; an scarce asset in the newsroom.</p>
<p>Perhaps leveraging best practices seen in other sites / distribution methods is the answer. A longer piece can have a 300-word &#8220;abstract&#8221; overview that hits the high points, complete with a source quote, bullet points and a photo. Users can be encouraged to &#8220;click in&#8221; to the full story, which they intellectually understand will be longer. This provides options for the more interested user, and less time investment for casual readers.</p>
<p>Another option could be to roll out longer pieces as RSS/blog exclusives; the only way to enjoy these &#8220;crown jewels&#8221; is to subscribe to the paper&#8217;s free RSS feed, which could be promoted alongside the abstract summary described above.</p>
<p>Thanks for writing such a provocative post, and please keep up the excellent work!</p>
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		<title>By: Yoni Greenbaum</title>
		<link>http://www.yonigreenbaum.com/index.php/20080212/online-story-presentation-give-me-a-break/comment-page-1/#comment-276</link>
		<dc:creator>Yoni Greenbaum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 12:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Matt - Definitely with shrinking newsprint budgets, papers should put &quot;more&quot; online. And if that &quot;more&quot; is longer stories or more sidebars, then I&#039;m all for it.

@John - I think you touch on a great point, the impact that blogs and having on traditional online media. And, I think it extends beyond length to functionality. I&#039;ve noticed that people really want and expect the same bells and whistles that they get on blogs or on other similar sites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Matt &#8211; Definitely with shrinking newsprint budgets, papers should put &#8220;more&#8221; online. And if that &#8220;more&#8221; is longer stories or more sidebars, then I&#8217;m all for it.</p>
<p>@John &#8211; I think you touch on a great point, the impact that blogs and having on traditional online media. And, I think it extends beyond length to functionality. I&#8217;ve noticed that people really want and expect the same bells and whistles that they get on blogs or on other similar sites.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnofScribbleSheet</title>
		<link>http://www.yonigreenbaum.com/index.php/20080212/online-story-presentation-give-me-a-break/comment-page-1/#comment-275</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnofScribbleSheet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 12:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to chime in with some experiences from ScribbleSheet. We used to have articles on the site that were 800 words long and people said that was just too much.

Now most articles are in the 500 word region which appears to be more successful. I think people expect newspaper/magazine articles online to be like blog reading. Its definitely a challenge for the industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to chime in with some experiences from ScribbleSheet. We used to have articles on the site that were 800 words long and people said that was just too much.</p>
<p>Now most articles are in the 500 word region which appears to be more successful. I think people expect newspaper/magazine articles online to be like blog reading. Its definitely a challenge for the industry.</p>
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		<title>By: matt king</title>
		<link>http://www.yonigreenbaum.com/index.php/20080212/online-story-presentation-give-me-a-break/comment-page-1/#comment-274</link>
		<dc:creator>matt king</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m all for writing longer on the Web, though I agree presentation is an issue. I&#039;m really tiredof writing half-formed stories because the 12 inches I&#039;m allowed just arent enough.

Many stories can do with less than that but just as many need more, so I say use the Web to post the 20 or 25 inch version that actually encompasses a story&#039;s context, history, nuance and complexity.

I don&#039;t like having to click on multiple pages to read a long story. I&#039;m a big fan of the page-turning apps that sit on one Web page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m all for writing longer on the Web, though I agree presentation is an issue. I&#8217;m really tiredof writing half-formed stories because the 12 inches I&#8217;m allowed just arent enough.</p>
<p>Many stories can do with less than that but just as many need more, so I say use the Web to post the 20 or 25 inch version that actually encompasses a story&#8217;s context, history, nuance and complexity.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like having to click on multiple pages to read a long story. I&#8217;m a big fan of the page-turning apps that sit on one Web page.</p>
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